Hearty Heresy

Two Quotes about God
April 18, 2007, 4:21 pm
Filed under: Christianity, Religion, Theology

Sorry I haven’t blogged in awhile. I’ve been pretty busy for the last seven days doing the heretical things my job requires me to do. But I’m back, and I’d like offer a couple of quotes that have been sharing quarters in the theological corner of my brain. One is from St. Augustine, as quoted in Borg’s and Crossan’s The Last Week. The other is from Dietrich Bonhoeffer, as quoted in Bishop Spongs A New Christianity for a New World.

We without God cannot, and God without us will not.

Our coming of age leads us to a true recognition of our situation before God. God would have us know that we must live as those who manage our lives without God. The God who is with us is the God who forsakes us. The God who lets us live in the world without the working hypothesis of God is the God before whom we stand continuously. Before God and with God we live without God.

I don’t know about you, but I find these quotes very exciting, even empowering. Rather than accepting a prescripted faith (the old story of Brand Xianity), Augustine and Bonhoeffer both hint at a faith that requires much, much more of us. And I can’t think of a faith more demanding (and more enlivening) than the one Bonhoeffer describes.


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Interesting quotes. How does Spong describe Bonhoeffer’s faith? We could have endless arguments over Bonhoeffer since he is one of few figures who is revered by both liberal and evangelical Christians 🙂

How do you see faith requiring more of us?

Comment by j4jesus

I don’t know how Spong would describe Bonhoeffer’s faith, although the “without” God part probably appeals to the Bishop since he is a non-Theist (as in the God of the OT & NT). It seems to me that a faith which doesn’t rely on a God who has planned everything out from the beginning might require more, uh, faith than one that has the inside scoop on God’s “plan.”

Comment by heartyheretic

Augustine probably did not mean that in the same way that you do. He probably wouldn’t be cool with your heresy project.

Comment by ganes

I’m sure Augustine was talking about a different sort of God. Still, there is plenty to appreciate about him, just as there is about Paul. Of course, as a heretic, I’m not terribly cool with their orthodoxy project!

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